There are no bisexual women in porn. At a secret meeting held in Geneva in 1985 Interporn, the Earth’s flesh-flick governing body, unanimously decided that ‘Chicks wanna do chicks’ that ‘We’re totally cool with that.’ and that ‘It’s totally not gay.’
This of course is bollocks, but somehow, today women who sleep with their girlfriends are shocked if you suggest they might be lesbians and dykehood seems to be conferred only one women of specific politics and a predictable taste in reproductive organs.
Frankly, I don’t care. Though think sexual labels are useful - it makes avoiding being in a relationship with someone who’d rather I didn’t have a penis easy to avoid - the idea we all have to defend our sexual turf is antiquated. In porn however, erroneously seen as a bastion of ‘Just do it’ mentality, malleable sexuality continues to pose a problem for men.
It’s impossible to be a lesbian in mainstream porn. There are women who perform with both sexes, who the jizz-bizz calls ’straight’, and women who perform exclusively with women, who are expected to get round to men when the money they’re offered makes a quick dunk worthwhile. Janine and Devinn Lane both ‘went straight’ (while never claiming to be either lesbian or bisexual),Tera Patrick shocked the industry by refusing to perform with women at the start of her career, and Justine Joli is widely expected to start doing men soon by those who find the lack of penis in her performances perplexing.
The default state of female performers is bisexuality and all female performers are considered to be bisexual regardless of their behavior. Bisexuality is treated as ’straight with sprinkles’ and lesbian tendencies are assumed to dissipate at the merest whif of musky ball-sack. It’s weird but at least it’s unrestrictive. Men don’t have it so easy.
For years a single on-camera homosexual experience has been enough to detonate a males career. Kiss a guy, you’re a queer. Rub your cock against another guys until you both come in a ‘double-vaginal’ or ‘double-anal’, you’re just getting the job done.
The stigma against bisexual men in porn is based, like porn’s racism, in a pseudo-reasonable distortion of the facts. The claim is that when men have sex on camera the risk of HIV infection is so high that any woman performing with a bisexual man is endangering the happy, diseases-free world of ’straight’ pornography.
But like so much prejudice that assumption’s based in hard guesswork. Not fact. The mainstream gay industry views condom use as the only protection from infection and eschews testing as a diversion. Though critics claim that allows HIV positive performers to work with impunity, studies show that condom use protects the partners of HIV positive people with effectively 100% efficiency. You’re safer with someone who’s HIV positive and wearing a condom than with someone holding a test that says two weeks ago they didn’t appear to be infected. Meanwhile the straight industry continues to preach that insisting on condoms will kill a career in ’straight’ porn faster than halitosis induced impotence.
When men do cross the rubicon and move from working with men to working with women, reactions range from surprise to disgust but men like Maxx Diesel/ . I can only assume it’s motivated by vanilla homophobia. It wasn’t long ago that anal sex was ‘a gay thing’ and now it’s the basis of the majority of mainstream pornography. Is there any real reason to discriminate against men who like both mussels and oysters?
Christian XXX is beginning to break down the wall. Christian’s good looking in that way only gay men can be and proudly, publicly, bisexual. What’s new is the response he’s getting from the newest generation of female performers who are charmed by his honesty, turned-on by his looks and keen to mount his frankly impressive trouser-crane. Once his past would have been a titanic barrier but Christian is being given the same leeway women have long taken for granted.
To my mind that seems smart, fair and reasonable but the industry continues to differ. I don’t see any choice long-term but for the industry to wake-up. The questions are will they move fast enough and what long term effect will male bisexuality have on pornography?
Will straight male consumers get all pissy knowing it is a bisexual male in the scene even if the scene is pure girl-guy action? Homophobia (and male insecurity) abounds in porn viewership.
I can imagine some will feel all icky knowing they are turned on by a scene featuring a guy who also likes cock even if that is not shown in the scene.
Seska - I thik you’re right though anyone who wants to explain what’s straight about bukkake - cocks and cum basically - is free to take a shot.
For sure - I’d like to hear that.
It seems to me there are different kinds of straight male porn consumers. One’s who get off on the hardcore action and do not mind seeing cock as part of that and one’s who get miffed seeing any male body aprts (especially the men’s faces - talk about objectification).
An aside - one member of my site emailed me recently with comments about how much he likes my girl-guy webcams shows featuring me and hsuband James. He said how he did not see James as a simple “dildo replacement” but as a whole person enjoying the experience with me (also a whole person). Compared to some of the comments I get that was so refreshing.
And here I go…
The distinction is that the men’s object of lust is not each other, but rather the girl. While for some that explanation isn’t good enough. For me that’s it. And tends to be the poplular belief.
And yeah, I would get an “icky”. I have nothing against gays. Whatever makes you happy. I just don’t want to see it.
Here’s another, Anne Heche. She did that film with Harrison Ford, “Six Days Seven Nights”. Sorry I just can’t see her as hetro. But Jodie Foster I can. It’s a double standard, yes.
I can’t say I’m ever gonna seeking a film starring Christian. Call me a homophobe or whatever. Just not gonna happen.
If you were not aware that a dude in a hot girl-guy scene was bisexual either in his private life or in his other porn work than I suppose the ignorance is bliss thing happens.
But if you did know would it really be such an issue that you could not watch the scene or get turned on from it - let’s say the scene is all together hot hot hot?
“ignorance is bliss thing”
Yup. You are correct.
“But if you did know…”
Depends. If the guy is just doing the girls, then I guess ok. But I would have a thought in the back of my mind. But should the guy be the recipient - via girl with strap-on or another man being pitcher on him. Yes, I wouldn’t be particularly bothered. Please don’t mix. As I wrote, double standard, but I have problem with it. Sorry, I’m not metrosexual, nor will I ever be.
Trigger mouse.
Correction: As I wrote, double standard, but I have no problem with it.
I certainly don’t tkae issue with someone not wanting to see a girl-guy-guy scene which featured guy on guy acts if that is not their turn on. I know of men and women who don’t like girl-girl sex in their porn. Just not their turn on.
What interests me is people’s ability to put aside what they know about a performer’s private life or other porn work and get off on what they see right before them.
I watched my first Joanna Angel vid the other day and I had to laugh at the “alt” label. Tattooed and pierced “alternative” people have surrounded me since my adolescence, and let me tell you, a flirtation with bisexuality (at the very least) was and is as common with the boys as it was with the girls. Wouldn’t a depiction of more men having sex with one another AND with women be the real “alt” porn?
It’s the same deal with Tom Cruise. I refuse to see any of his films. I have very strong feels against his pseudo-religion. I can not separate the man from the character. Furthering that feelin was him setting up a Scientology recruitment tent on the set of “War Of The Worlds”.
I can’t see a Tom Cruise flick without constantly thinking about how I am seeing a Tom Cruise flick. He is not an actor to me anymore - he just plays this persona.
I am getting off track little but let me throw porn back into things - maybe that is what porn viewing is about anyway. People seeking out porn want their favourite porn star, their favourite body, their favourite persona. You can’t get lost in the plot, the setting, or the acting. You can get fixated on either specific sex acts or specific performers. So in this situation one could not see past any the performers who turn you off because of their persona or orientation.
I have the same thing with Tom Cruise too — it’s very hard to turn him off and watch whatever character he’s supposedly playing. A few other actors/actresses are the same way for me but of course I can’t think of any at the moment.
Funny you should mention Six Days Seven Nights. Before I moved to LA I was better about this, but I’ve always tried to ignore the private lives of celebrities, and Anne Heche’s real-life loves didn’t enter into the movie for me — or wouldn’t have, if my date hadn’t thought it was funny to keep leaning over and whispering “she’s gay, you know.”
I think as more women speak up — as producers, performers, and consumers — some of the old porn rules will have to give way. I think male-on-male is incredibly hot, all that masculine sexual energy feeding on itself. It doesn’t surprise me a bit that his female colleagues want him on their sides (or backs or tops or whatever).
That said, I have such a hard time telling people apart even in the same porn movie that no, it’s not hard at all for me to set aside what I know about someone’s life outside a particular scene (I get Tera’s press releases too, Sam!).
Spooky - I was in the middle of an Anne Heche, Jodie Foster ‘Triple Cream Oreo’ (it’s like a three way, you squeeze between two white chicks, and the blackest guys you can find take care of business from the flanks) and Tom Cruise walked in with a copy of Dianetics and John Travolta’s lipstic all over his junk.
What were we talking about again?